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So in that horrendous hiatus between season 1 and season 2 of Gravity Falls, at one point I mentioned to my brother that season 2 was coming back in summer. And my mom was in the room at the time. When she heard me she said “the next episode still hasn’t aired? I though it left on a huge cliffhanger?” And what I meant my response to be was “the entire show is a cliffhanger” but what ended up coming out of my mouth was “the entire show is a hangover”

Who wants to here a story?
So in that horrendous hiatus between season 1 and season 2 of Gravity Falls, at one point I mentioned to my brother that season 2 was coming back in summer. And my mom was in the room at the time. When she heard me she said “the next episode still hasn’t aired? I though it left on a huge cliffhanger?” And what I meant my response to be was “the entire show is a cliffhanger” but what ended up coming out of my mouth was “the entire show is a hangover”

I can’t believe we were theorizing why Stanley was so dressed up in Dungeons Dungeons and More Dungeons, and it turns out he was just dressing up for a children’s show!! I mean, I get Stan loves Ducketive, I get that it was a huge episode, but really?!?! Who does that?!—

–oh…right…i…i do that…

I can’t believe we were theorizing why Stanley was so dressed up in Dungeons Dungeons and More Dungeons, and it turns out he was just dressing up for a children’s show!! I mean, I get Stan loves Ducketive, I get that it was a huge episode, but really?!?! Who does that?!—

–oh…right…i…i do that…

“#HOW COME PEOPLE STILL INSIST THAT THEY’RE IDENTICAL TWINS WHEN STAN’S SHOULDERS ARE TWICE AS BROAD AS FORD’S” you would think Ford having 12 fingers and a cleft chin would be enough to convince people, i don’t get the weird insistence that they’re identical. what’s wrong with fraternal twins??

thewingedwalrus:

thewittyarsonist:

wet-monsoon:

idk man, this is what a different anon said:

i would think they’re identical because the two stans have (generally) the same face because that’s usually the only way to tell just by appearances but identical twins can be different heights, weights, what not. there’s lots of reasons as to why this happens but fraternal twins never look that similar in the face. i dont know i just saw your tags and it got me to thinking.

i honestly don’t know a whole lot about the genetics of twins. i’m p sure the six finger thing is just due to a birth defect but both stans have completely different builds so i always assumed they were fraternal? and the fact that their voices and faces are kinda similar but distinctly different

the only thing i was basing it off of was this pair of identical twins i knew in grade school and they looked and sounded exactly the same

I think the telling thing is how the Stans looked exactly the same up until puberty. Ford didn’t grow the cleft in his chin until his teenage years. Stan’s bulkiness is due to his eating/workout habits. So there might be a better chance of them being identical than fraternal.

Honestly, as an identical twin, I dunno what to think.  The identical faces – and yes, the prepubescent similarities – are a strong indication they’re meant to be identical, in which case I strongly appreciate their different body types, etc.  The Gravity Falls team has gone out of their way to establish Stan and Ford both visually and story-wise as individuals, which is something that the media does for us very, very rarely.  

Yes, if they’re identical, their physical differences are realistic due to epigenetics and lifestyle (and can also be excused as having been played up for the sake of the audience).  The 12 fingers are more questionable, but we still don’t know for sure what caused them, so I leave that open to interpretation until we know more about it (I’d also like to point out that my twin and I both have a genetic bone deformity but to significantly different degrees, to the point that my sister’s was a noticeable problem while mine wasn’t.  In my mind there still remains the possibility that Stan in fact DOES have the same condition but it’s latent/invisible, as is my case).

HOWEVER, so far they actually strike me as fraternal.  Not because of physical differences but because of personality ones. Speaking not only as a twin but also as someone who has known, on a personal level, several pairs of both types, in my experience fraternal twins are as varied as any other set of siblings, while identicals have the same basic personality and interests but take them in different directions.  And so far, Stan and Ford have done almost nothing whatsoever to indicate they share any intrinsic commonalities at all.

Of course, we’ve only known Ford for two episodes, both of which focus on his differences with Stan, so it’s still possible they’ll turn out to be more similar than we’ve been led to believe.  Also, I’m forced to admit that even if Alex Hirsch intends for them to be identical, he’s still writing them from the perspective of a fraternal twin, as well as a showrunner who needs to make clear

that Stan and Ford are separate individuals to an audience that doesn’t always understand twins in the first place.  Perhaps identical twins as well-rounded separate characters but with realistically similar personalities is too much to expect.

So my verdict?  Unclear.  Wait until we have more info and accept that it may never be fully addressed.

If I may add my own thoughts onto this discussion. I once read that fraternal twins can look identical,  a good example is the Olsen twins

This site is where I got the picture, and it also states a few facts about them, first one being that, these young ladies are not identical.

Also, here’s a post I did a while back that’s suddenly been getting kinda popular (at least popular to me lol) for reasons i’m not sure Perhaps it could apply to Stan and Ford too/instead?

“#HOW COME PEOPLE STILL INSIST THAT THEY’RE IDENTICAL TWINS WHEN STAN’S SHOULDERS ARE TWICE AS BROAD AS FORD’S” you would think Ford having 12 fingers and a cleft chin would be enough to convince people, i don’t get the weird insistence that they’re identical. what’s wrong with fraternal twins??

thewingedwalrus:

thewittyarsonist:

wet-monsoon:

idk man, this is what a different anon said:

i would think they’re identical because the two stans have (generally) the same face because that’s usually the only way to tell just by appearances but identical twins can be different heights, weights, what not. there’s lots of reasons as to why this happens but fraternal twins never look that similar in the face. i dont know i just saw your tags and it got me to thinking.

i honestly don’t know a whole lot about the genetics of twins. i’m p sure the six finger thing is just due to a birth defect but both stans have completely different builds so i always assumed they were fraternal? and the fact that their voices and faces are kinda similar but distinctly different

the only thing i was basing it off of was this pair of identical twins i knew in grade school and they looked and sounded exactly the same

I think the telling thing is how the Stans looked exactly the same up until puberty. Ford didn’t grow the cleft in his chin until his teenage years. Stan’s bulkiness is due to his eating/workout habits. So there might be a better chance of them being identical than fraternal.

Honestly, as an identical twin, I dunno what to think.  The identical faces – and yes, the prepubescent similarities – are a strong indication they’re meant to be identical, in which case I strongly appreciate their different body types, etc.  The Gravity Falls team has gone out of their way to establish Stan and Ford both visually and story-wise as individuals, which is something that the media does for us very, very rarely.  

Yes, if they’re identical, their physical differences are realistic due to epigenetics and lifestyle (and can also be excused as having been played up for the sake of the audience).  The 12 fingers are more questionable, but we still don’t know for sure what caused them, so I leave that open to interpretation until we know more about it (I’d also like to point out that my twin and I both have a genetic bone deformity but to significantly different degrees, to the point that my sister’s was a noticeable problem while mine wasn’t.  In my mind there still remains the possibility that Stan in fact DOES have the same condition but it’s latent/invisible, as is my case).

HOWEVER, so far they actually strike me as fraternal.  Not because of physical differences but because of personality ones. Speaking not only as a twin but also as someone who has known, on a personal level, several pairs of both types, in my experience fraternal twins are as varied as any other set of siblings, while identicals have the same basic personality and interests but take them in different directions.  And so far, Stan and Ford have done almost nothing whatsoever to indicate they share any intrinsic commonalities at all.

Of course, we’ve only known Ford for two episodes, both of which focus on his differences with Stan, so it’s still possible they’ll turn out to be more similar than we’ve been led to believe.  Also, I’m forced to admit that even if Alex Hirsch intends for them to be identical, he’s still writing them from the perspective of a fraternal twin, as well as a showrunner who needs to make clear

that Stan and Ford are separate individuals to an audience that doesn’t always understand twins in the first place.  Perhaps identical twins as well-rounded separate characters but with realistically similar personalities is too much to expect.

So my verdict?  Unclear.  Wait until we have more info and accept that it may never be fully addressed.

If I may add my own thoughts onto this discussion. I once read that fraternal twins can look identical,  a good example is the Olsen twins

This site is where I got the picture, and it also states a few facts about them, first one being that, these young ladies are not identical.

Also, here’s a post I did a while back that’s suddenly been getting kinda popular (at least popular to me lol) for reasons i’m not sure Perhaps it could apply to Stan and Ford too/instead?

My theory options for The Stanchurian Candidate (did I spell Stanchurian right??) while making sure both “the mayor of Gravity Falls is not long for this world” and “Bud Gleeful wants to run for mayor” come true:

1. current mayor dies, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Stan wins and idk what would happen after that.

2. Current mayor dies, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Bud wins, and I agree with the fandom that if Bud wins he’s gonna get Gideon out of jail. After that a hell breaks loose cuz ya know Gideon

3. Current mayor doesn’t die, just stops being mayor for whatever reason, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Bud wins and gets Gideon out of jail. Afterwards, Bud Gleeful dies (what if Gideon kills his dad? A little dark but..)

4. Current mayor doesn’t die, just stops being mayor for whatever reason, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Stan wins and I cry because that would pretty much confirm that Stan will be the one to die.

My theory options for The Stanchurian Candidate (did I spell Stanchurian right??) while making sure both “the mayor of Gravity Falls is not long for this world” and “Bud Gleeful wants to run for mayor” come true:

1. current mayor dies, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Stan wins and idk what would happen after that.

2. Current mayor dies, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Bud wins, and I agree with the fandom that if Bud wins he’s gonna get Gideon out of jail. After that a hell breaks loose cuz ya know Gideon

3. Current mayor doesn’t die, just stops being mayor for whatever reason, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Bud wins and gets Gideon out of jail. Afterwards, Bud Gleeful dies (what if Gideon kills his dad? A little dark but..)

4. Current mayor doesn’t die, just stops being mayor for whatever reason, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Stan wins and I cry because that would pretty much confirm that Stan will be the one to die.

I always obsess over Stanley bonding with Dipper and Mabel, and in that obsession I’ve forgotten about the bond that Soos and Stan have that we don’t see enough of. Like Stan has grown so close to Dipper in Mabel in just a few months, I want to see more of how close Stan is to Soos, who he’s been spending time with for a decade. We know how close Soos feels to Stan, and somewhere (I don’t remember where or when sorry 😕) Alex stated that Stan does love Soos, but I want to actually see a lot more of that. Stan has developed cute little pet names for Dipper and Mabel (kiddos, sweetie) but I’ve never heard any for Soos who Stan has spent 10 years spending time with. It’s cute to know that Stan tried to have Soos’s birthday removed from calendars simply because he knew Soos didn’t like his birthday, and I would really like to see or hear about more stuff like this. And I wouldn’t in the slightest bit mind if Stan admitted to Soos that he sees him like a son (and I’m sure Soos wouldn’t mind either lol) and yeah I just need more Stan and Soos bonding. This has been a late night rant by me.

I always obsess over Stanley bonding with Dipper and Mabel, and in that obsession I’ve forgotten about the bond that Soos and Stan have that we don’t see enough of. Like Stan has grown so close to Dipper in Mabel in just a few months, I want to see more of how close Stan is to Soos, who he’s been spending time with for a decade. We know how close Soos feels to Stan, and somewhere (I don’t remember where or when sorry 😕) Alex stated that Stan does love Soos, but I want to actually see a lot more of that. Stan has developed cute little pet names for Dipper and Mabel (kiddos, sweetie) but I’ve never heard any for Soos who Stan has spent 10 years spending time with. It’s cute to know that Stan tried to have Soos’s birthday removed from calendars simply because he knew Soos didn’t like his birthday, and I would really like to see or hear about more stuff like this. And I wouldn’t in the slightest bit mind if Stan admitted to Soos that he sees him like a son (and I’m sure Soos wouldn’t mind either lol) and yeah I just need more Stan and Soos bonding. This has been a late night rant by me.