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My sister made a good point against a character death because there is literally NO TIME in the episode to deal with the fallout of that… Children will be traumatized if one of their favorite characters just dies with no closure or anything.
That’s a really good point.
I mean, I’m the first to start worrying and speculating, but given the time restraints on the finale alone, and the fact that killing a member of the family would be so monumental (and not fit in with the whole ‘surreal feel of summer’ that seems to be central to the shows theme) I DON’T think they’re going to kill anyone. Permanently. Probably.
*knocks on wood just in case*
Yup. Also it’s just poor storytelling. Imagine if in the very last episode in the last ten minutes, a beloved character dies in a goofy Disney cartoon? Lol remember that entire lesson about family sticking together but then one of them just up and dies… bye kids hope you had a great summer!
Okay guys look LOOK I hate to be Ms. Poops On Parade here, I don’t want Stan to die and I really really hope you’re right, but:
1) Someone is going to die. Alex Hirsch said there’s be a character death in season 2. And I think only deep, profound denial can really make me believe it’s Big Henry or Mayor Befuffleflumpter, his exact words were “at least one character will not survive Season 2. Buckle up.” So it’s almost certainly going to be a character with some degree of significance. That doesn’t mean it will be Stan or a member of the Pines family, but it’s probably going to be someone the audience cares about to some degree.
2) I don’t think I agree that it’d necessarily be bad storytelling, or out of sync with the tone of the show or the theme of family sticking together. The reason there are so many Stan death theories is that his death has been foreshadowed A LOT, not just with visual symbolism like images of him catching fire, but with character development–Stan has shown time and time again that he cares very little for his own safety when his family is on the line. We know he’s willing to sacrifice himself and that despite all he’s done he still has something to prove. He’s also been a fairly morbid character from the start.
Sometimes killing a beloved character is great storytelling. I grew up on Don Bluth movies like The Secret of NIMH and The Land Before Time, and both of those movies kill off a mentor-like figure in an incredibly memorable moment. You could pick apart why it’s different in those movies than it would be in Gravity Falls, but ultimately I don’t think it’s beyond the GF writers’ ability to make it a well done, dramatic, emotional moment that suits the show’s larger narrative. Closure can happen in just a few scenes, after all.
Right now, Stan’s prospects don’t seem very happy. He’s spent most of his life trying to reconnect with a brother who now wants nothing to do with him. At the end of the summer he’s going to lose his home, the business he’s devoted 30 years to, and his identity. There’s a good chance that means he’ll lose contact with his family as well.
Ford told Stan he wanted his house and his name back. Well, if Stan died he’d get his house and name back in the most bitter way possible. He’d be made to realize that he had his priorities backwards, that he should have reconnected with his brother when he had the chance. The Stans would serve as a negative example for the twins, (as they have done since ATOTS.)
And if Stan dies heroically saving the world from Bill, well…we all know Stan feels he has something to prove. He’s proven himself to be a hero already to the town, the twins…to pretty much everybody except the one person who he most feels the need to prove himself to, the one person he believes he’s been trying to catch up to all his life. Maybe it would take something as drastic and dramatic as dying to stop Bill to make Ford see that Stan’s love for his family is what makes him a hero.
Now I’m not saying that any of this means that Stan is going to die. Just that I don’t think it would necessarily be bad storytelling or out of sync with the show in general if he did.
Besides. If you think Alex Hirsch has a problem with traumatizing children…
Well, I’ve got a couple of Stan-Vacs to sell you.
Thank you for this. I’m always so confused when people say Stan dying would be “bad story telling” I don’t see how that’s bad story telling. Frankly I think it’s good story telling. Isn’t foreshadowing a very important part of good story telling? And Stan’s death has certainly been foreshadowed. The only thing that gives me hope for Stan is the whole “there’s not enough time” thing. But even that shouldn’t give me confidence, after I wasn’t sure if there was enough time in season two to finish the story, but yet, they made it work and were able to finish the story in two seasons. The writers know they’re doing, whatever they want to happen, they will make it work.
My sister made a good point against a character death because there is literally NO TIME in the episode to deal with the fallout of that… Children will be traumatized if one of their favorite characters just dies with no closure or anything.
That’s a really good point.
I mean, I’m the first to start worrying and speculating, but given the time restraints on the finale alone, and the fact that killing a member of the family would be so monumental (and not fit in with the whole ‘surreal feel of summer’ that seems to be central to the shows theme) I DON’T think they’re going to kill anyone. Permanently. Probably.
*knocks on wood just in case*
Yup. Also it’s just poor storytelling. Imagine if in the very last episode in the last ten minutes, a beloved character dies in a goofy Disney cartoon? Lol remember that entire lesson about family sticking together but then one of them just up and dies… bye kids hope you had a great summer!
Okay guys look LOOK I hate to be Ms. Poops On Parade here, I don’t want Stan to die and I really really hope you’re right, but:
1) Someone is going to die. Alex Hirsch said there’s be a character death in season 2. And I think only deep, profound denial can really make me believe it’s Big Henry or Mayor Befuffleflumpter, his exact words were “at least one character will not survive Season 2. Buckle up.” So it’s almost certainly going to be a character with some degree of significance. That doesn’t mean it will be Stan or a member of the Pines family, but it’s probably going to be someone the audience cares about to some degree.
2) I don’t think I agree that it’d necessarily be bad storytelling, or out of sync with the tone of the show or the theme of family sticking together. The reason there are so many Stan death theories is that his death has been foreshadowed A LOT, not just with visual symbolism like images of him catching fire, but with character development–Stan has shown time and time again that he cares very little for his own safety when his family is on the line. We know he’s willing to sacrifice himself and that despite all he’s done he still has something to prove. He’s also been a fairly morbid character from the start.
Sometimes killing a beloved character is great storytelling. I grew up on Don Bluth movies like The Secret of NIMH and The Land Before Time, and both of those movies kill off a mentor-like figure in an incredibly memorable moment. You could pick apart why it’s different in those movies than it would be in Gravity Falls, but ultimately I don’t think it’s beyond the GF writers’ ability to make it a well done, dramatic, emotional moment that suits the show’s larger narrative. Closure can happen in just a few scenes, after all.
Right now, Stan’s prospects don’t seem very happy. He’s spent most of his life trying to reconnect with a brother who now wants nothing to do with him. At the end of the summer he’s going to lose his home, the business he’s devoted 30 years to, and his identity. There’s a good chance that means he’ll lose contact with his family as well.
Ford told Stan he wanted his house and his name back. Well, if Stan died he’d get his house and name back in the most bitter way possible. He’d be made to realize that he had his priorities backwards, that he should have reconnected with his brother when he had the chance. The Stans would serve as a negative example for the twins, (as they have done since ATOTS.)
And if Stan dies heroically saving the world from Bill, well…we all know Stan feels he has something to prove. He’s proven himself to be a hero already to the town, the twins…to pretty much everybody except the one person who he most feels the need to prove himself to, the one person he believes he’s been trying to catch up to all his life. Maybe it would take something as drastic and dramatic as dying to stop Bill to make Ford see that Stan’s love for his family is what makes him a hero.
Now I’m not saying that any of this means that Stan is going to die. Just that I don’t think it would necessarily be bad storytelling or out of sync with the show in general if he did.
Besides. If you think Alex Hirsch has a problem with traumatizing children…
Well, I’ve got a couple of Stan-Vacs to sell you.
Thank you for this. I’m always so confused when people say Stan dying would be “bad story telling” I don’t see how that’s bad story telling. Frankly I think it’s good story telling. Isn’t foreshadowing a very important part of good story telling? And Stan’s death has certainly been foreshadowed. The only thing that gives me hope for Stan is the whole “there’s not enough time” thing. But even that shouldn’t give me confidence, after I wasn’t sure if there was enough time in season two to finish the story, but yet, they made it work and were able to finish the story in two seasons. The writers know they’re doing, whatever they want to happen, they will make it work.
Okay, I’ve seen sssooooooo many people talk about this, but they way I’ve seen everyone word it…is…confusing to me. I’m sure I’m just misreading, but allow me to take the time to 1, explain how I’m confused, 2, explain what I think is trying to be said and 3 talk about it a little. Hopefully if anyone else is having the same problems understanding this will clear it up a little
I’ve seen the theory on the force field worded two different ways (these are paraphrased). 1. “The force field Ford and Dipper put up around the Shack is still up, that’s why it’s safe and why Stan and everyone else was in there. This also explains why Bill can’t leave Gravity Falls.” 2. “Stan read about how to create a force field to keep out Bill when he had Ford’s journals,or he copied the journals and read about how to, and he created the force field that is keeping Bill in Gravity Falls. This also explains why the Shack is totally safe from Bill.”
The way I’m reading both of these are “Either Ford’s force field is still up, or Stan put up a force field, and that one forcefield is both keeping Bill out of Shack, and keeping him in Gravity Falls.” Again, I think I’m misreading, I think what is actually meant is: “Ford’s force field is still up, and that is what’s protecting the Shack, and why everyone is in the Shack. Stan also knew how to create the force field because he had Ford’s journals, and either he read it before they burned, or he made copies that he looked at. So Stan probably made another force field that’s keeping Bill in” (that’s kinda like combing two theories into one.)
If I am reading these theories correctly, and the theory is in fact that one force field is both keeping Bill out of the Shack and in Gravity Falls, well first then I may have just created a new theory by accident lol, and second, it’s really not possible to have one force field do both of those things, unless the Mystery Shack isn’t in Gravity Falls. Which I suppose is possible, it could maybe be right outside of the city lines of Gravity Falls. But I don’t think that’s likely, I think Gravity Falls is in a valley, and the entire town is in the valley. So there has to be two different force fields, one that Ford and Dipper made in The Last Mabelcorn (which it would make sense if that force field was protecting the shack, because that force field hasn’t come into play. I mean, what was the point of doing an entire episode dedicated to creating the force field if it was never gonna come into play at all?) and the second force field was created by an unknown person at an unknown time.
And now I want to talk about this theory
Everyone seems to think this “unknown person” is Stan, and I love that theory, and it makes the most logical sense. Stan had plenty of access to the journals, and is really the only other person who had any access to the journals who wasn’t either on screen doing other things, and wasn’t turned into a statue. And we know he copied journal #3, so he probably copied the others, and this would also explain why Celestab- the unicorn whose name I can’t spell was in the Shack with everyone else. However, I’m a little nervous that we will be disappointed, and it will not have been Stan who created the force field around Gravity Falls. I can’t think of a lot of examples right now, but I remember a ton of theories about Stan doing something like this, that was him saving the day, and I remember the only one that came true was Stan saving his brother from the portal. The only example coming to mind right now was when we were all wondering why Stan was taking everyone on a roadtrip after such a huge episode like The Last Mabelcorn, and there was a theory that Stan was trying to protect the kids from Ford (this theory came up before TLM aired, so no one knew what was going to happen in that episode, the theory was that Stan would find reason to believe Ford is dangerous in that episode, and that’s why he was taking them on the roadtrip in Roadside Attraction, to get the kids away from Ford), and it ended up being that he just wanted to prank a bunch of people. I remember there being other little theories like that, that were Stan doing something significant to the plot, and ever since Not What He Seems, it seems to me like the writers haven’t had Stan do much for the main, overall plot of Gravity Falls (I mean yes he’s played parts in the plots of episodes, but with the exception of this recent episode, where he was with a group of people and was the chief according to his sash, he doesn’t seem to have played any other part in the main plot since season 2b started, (someone please correct me if I’m wrong. I want to be wrong here)) and I’m worried this will happen again, where Stan ends up having hardly any significance. On the other hand, this is the most perfect time for me to be proven wrong. This is going to be one of the most significant points of the plot, and perhaps Stan hasn’t played a big role in the plot since getting his brother out of the portal because the writers were planning on having him be significant in more important ways.
Okay, I’ve seen sssooooooo many people talk about this, but they way I’ve seen everyone word it…is…confusing to me. I’m sure I’m just misreading, but allow me to take the time to 1, explain how I’m confused, 2, explain what I think is trying to be said and 3 talk about it a little. Hopefully if anyone else is having the same problems understanding this will clear it up a little
I’ve seen the theory on the force field worded two different ways (these are paraphrased). 1. “The force field Ford and Dipper put up around the Shack is still up, that’s why it’s safe and why Stan and everyone else was in there. This also explains why Bill can’t leave Gravity Falls.” 2. “Stan read about how to create a force field to keep out Bill when he had Ford’s journals,or he copied the journals and read about how to, and he created the force field that is keeping Bill in Gravity Falls. This also explains why the Shack is totally safe from Bill.”
The way I’m reading both of these are “Either Ford’s force field is still up, or Stan put up a force field, and that one forcefield is both keeping Bill out of Shack, and keeping him in Gravity Falls.” Again, I think I’m misreading, I think what is actually meant is: “Ford’s force field is still up, and that is what’s protecting the Shack, and why everyone is in the Shack. Stan also knew how to create the force field because he had Ford’s journals, and either he read it before they burned, or he made copies that he looked at. So Stan probably made another force field that’s keeping Bill in” (that’s kinda like combing two theories into one.)
If I am reading these theories correctly, and the theory is in fact that one force field is both keeping Bill out of the Shack and in Gravity Falls, well first then I may have just created a new theory by accident lol, and second, it’s really not possible to have one force field do both of those things, unless the Mystery Shack isn’t in Gravity Falls. Which I suppose is possible, it could maybe be right outside of the city lines of Gravity Falls. But I don’t think that’s likely, I think Gravity Falls is in a valley, and the entire town is in the valley. So there has to be two different force fields, one that Ford and Dipper made in The Last Mabelcorn (which it would make sense if that force field was protecting the shack, because that force field hasn’t come into play. I mean, what was the point of doing an entire episode dedicated to creating the force field if it was never gonna come into play at all?) and the second force field was created by an unknown person at an unknown time.
And now I want to talk about this theory
Everyone seems to think this “unknown person” is Stan, and I love that theory, and it makes the most logical sense. Stan had plenty of access to the journals, and is really the only other person who had any access to the journals who wasn’t either on screen doing other things, and wasn’t turned into a statue. And we know he copied journal #3, so he probably copied the others, and this would also explain why Celestab- the unicorn whose name I can’t spell was in the Shack with everyone else. However, I’m a little nervous that we will be disappointed, and it will not have been Stan who created the force field around Gravity Falls. I can’t think of a lot of examples right now, but I remember a ton of theories about Stan doing something like this, that was him saving the day, and I remember the only one that came true was Stan saving his brother from the portal. The only example coming to mind right now was when we were all wondering why Stan was taking everyone on a roadtrip after such a huge episode like The Last Mabelcorn, and there was a theory that Stan was trying to protect the kids from Ford (this theory came up before TLM aired, so no one knew what was going to happen in that episode, the theory was that Stan would find reason to believe Ford is dangerous in that episode, and that’s why he was taking them on the roadtrip in Roadside Attraction, to get the kids away from Ford), and it ended up being that he just wanted to prank a bunch of people. I remember there being other little theories like that, that were Stan doing something significant to the plot, and ever since Not What He Seems, it seems to me like the writers haven’t had Stan do much for the main, overall plot of Gravity Falls (I mean yes he’s played parts in the plots of episodes, but with the exception of this recent episode, where he was with a group of people and was the chief according to his sash, he doesn’t seem to have played any other part in the main plot since season 2b started, (someone please correct me if I’m wrong. I want to be wrong here)) and I’m worried this will happen again, where Stan ends up having hardly any significance. On the other hand, this is the most perfect time for me to be proven wrong. This is going to be one of the most significant points of the plot, and perhaps Stan hasn’t played a big role in the plot since getting his brother out of the portal because the writers were planning on having him be significant in more important ways.
In the promo for The Last Mabelcorn, Ford told Bill he “has no dominion in our realm” and we still don’t know what Bill’s big plan is, so I’m wondering if his big plan is gaining power in our realm or the Gravity Falls realm or whatever. The question of course would then be what’s be planning to do with that gained power.
In the promo for The Last Mabelcorn, Ford told Bill he “has no dominion in our realm” and we still don’t know what Bill’s big plan is, so I’m wondering if his big plan is gaining power in our realm or the Gravity Falls realm or whatever. The question of course would then be what’s be planning to do with that gained power.
My theory options for The Stanchurian Candidate (did I spell Stanchurian right??) while making sure both “the mayor of Gravity Falls is not long for this world” and “Bud Gleeful wants to run for mayor” come true:
1. current mayor dies, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Stan wins and idk what would happen after that.
2. Current mayor dies, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Bud wins, and I agree with the fandom that if Bud wins he’s gonna get Gideon out of jail. After that a hell breaks loose cuz ya know Gideon
3. Current mayor doesn’t die, just stops being mayor for whatever reason, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Bud wins and gets Gideon out of jail. Afterwards, Bud Gleeful dies (what if Gideon kills his dad? A little dark but..)
4. Current mayor doesn’t die, just stops being mayor for whatever reason, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Stan wins and I cry because that would pretty much confirm that Stan will be the one to die.
My theory options for The Stanchurian Candidate (did I spell Stanchurian right??) while making sure both “the mayor of Gravity Falls is not long for this world” and “Bud Gleeful wants to run for mayor” come true:
1. current mayor dies, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Stan wins and idk what would happen after that.
2. Current mayor dies, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Bud wins, and I agree with the fandom that if Bud wins he’s gonna get Gideon out of jail. After that a hell breaks loose cuz ya know Gideon
3. Current mayor doesn’t die, just stops being mayor for whatever reason, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Bud wins and gets Gideon out of jail. Afterwards, Bud Gleeful dies (what if Gideon kills his dad? A little dark but..)
4. Current mayor doesn’t die, just stops being mayor for whatever reason, Stan and Bud run against eachother, Stan wins and I cry because that would pretty much confirm that Stan will be the one to die.
I keep seeing people post about how Stanley is dressing different, but I don’t think I’ve seen any theories as to why, so allow me to state my theory:
What if he’s getting ready for a job interview?
I keep seeing people post about how Stanley is dressing different, but I don’t think I’ve seen any theories as to why, so allow me to state my theory:
What if he’s getting ready for a job interview?
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