lizzy-mun:

(note: I do not own the Journal 3 special edition, so if it contains any new information, that could have anything to do with this topic, let me know
Also, i did not do any research, except watching some scenes from the show, so i don’t know if anyone said this or something similar before)

Today i wanna share my thoughts about Bill Ciphers demise. We all know what happened, but here’s a quick recap anyway:
Bill entered Stan’s mind, Ford used the Memory Gun to erase all of Stans memory’s, which also seems to erase Bill. Or did it?

The most obvious and apparently also most brought argument is, that Bill somehow survived the memory erasing process. The reason people believe that is because they are bill fangirls and don’t want him to die Stanleys memorys came back after a few weeks (i don’t know the exact time anymore, sorry). The thing is, if Stan’s memories survived, why not Bill aswell?
While this sounds plausible, it is not the focus of todays theory.

I wanna talk about this guy:

actually, i wanna talk about this guy:

Buuut they are pretty much the same person, so it doesn’t matter. Let’s go:

So we all know that McGucket build the memory gun and used it on himself numerous times (probably about 2 years)

And we all know how that ended;

He turned into a crazy hillbilly. Here is where things get interesting.
in this last memory he says:  YROO XRKSVI GIRZMTOV! Which translates to: BILL CIPHER TRIANGLE! And would you look at that

Isn’t that a triangle with an eye? Hmmm.

So we know that McGucket saw Bill when he accidentally looked through the portal, which let to him erasing his memorys. But those memorys of Bill never truly disappeared. We know he went crazy after 2 years and, at least subconsciously, remembers something about Bill. These leftovers of the Bill memorys in combination of the Memory Gun pretty much destroyed his mind.
And we know that Bill has to have to do something with this, since the other members of the Society of the Blind Eye used the Memory gun on themself to a point where they don’t even remember the founder of their organisation anymore. And they seem to be as sane as someone living in Gravity Falls can be.

My conclusion is: If a memory of Bill Cipher can survive the Memory Gun, then surely the actual Bill can survive it too (tho definitely now unharmed) That’s why i think that it’s likely that some part of Bill is still somewhere inside Stan’s mind. How much of him is left and how it would affect Stan is unknown, since we didn’t get to see that much more of them after the Memory erasing incident.

( @flo-nelja​ )